The times I had those connections (with checked luggage) I never missed one connection neighter luggage at arrival. Once I had a 35-minute Int'l to Int'l connection at ADD. Good luck! Everyone boarded the LGA flight on time but there was delayed takeoff due airport traffic. That seems a little aggressive to me, but then again, I also avoid 40-minute connections at other hubs. No checked bags and have global entry. Probably 5-6 minutes at a fast pace. Airlines are supposed to allow a specific amount of time between connecting flights. When I called American Airlines , their response was if they scheduled it , you can make it ! Albeit I never was in Austin, I'm pretty sure FRA is quite bigger than Austin. Not sure what's betterno response or bullshit response. The Charlotte Airport it takes at least 19 minutes to get to your next gate and that has been for every flight I have taken from there. It lets me stretch my legs (which is good for anyone), and minimizes the chances of being among the folks running through the terminal. I am a student and will have checked in baggage. I have not been to JFK in a while! Flight attendants tried to calm me but.they confessed that it was just a couple of gates shy of the longest distance I could walk between the terminals. Which happens to end good for me and 5 other people who I invited as my "friends" to board the flight. This seemed ok to me. Running to your next gate, which is two or three terminals away, is the only option. But I don't think I will ever try that again even though I said I will never do less than a one hour connection. Don't know in the US but here if you are i.e. Thanks. Hi Sofia if the entire itinerary can be purchased together as a single ticket, that means that the first flight will be operated by Delta (which is a partner of Air France). However, having flown "the back of the bus," and having experienced "my plane made it to the gate, but no one is there to operate the jetway," I prefer to book a longer connection. I also flying through Phoenix and agree with the author. In Ben's defense, the ROI simply isn't there. Do I need to retrieve the luggage at JFK before rechecking them in? As a pretty frequent American flyer, I find that most hubs have a minimum connection time of 40 minutes, and of course thats already pushing it. It works either way. Other one world and partner airlines use the following: T-1: Japan Airlines and Royal Air Maroc T-4: Etihad T-5: Aer Lingus and Hawaiian Airlines T-7: Alaska Airlines T-8: see above Thank you for your help. We For the longest time I refused to fly on American because of the nasty attitudes of their staff (angry black bitches) and how they screwed me over multiple times. However even though the plane did hit the tarmac 20 minutes early it took us all of that just to get to the arrival gate throw in the time for us to get off the plane and our 30 minute connection time dwindled to just 20 minutes with just 5 minutes to make it to our gate before they close the doors. Let the buyer be ware! Why do airlines sell connections like this? Minimum connection times at the John F Kennedy Airport in New York can be as low as 30 minutes for domestic flights (if you're flying the same airline). 46 minutes is enough time since youll be arriving and departing out of Terminal 4 at JFK. I wasn't going to check anything because of the short connection. When we landed in Miami ,we had 56 minutes to go from arrival , check passport , collect bags , thru customs ( 25 minutes) to boarding desk ! Hell no! Itll be especially easy if you dont have to change terminals. The following is a detailed breakdown of exactly how long itll take you to make connections at JFK for nearly any situation (based on my own personal experience). We arrive in JFK terminal 4 from Brussels (Belgium) at 1:30 pm with Delta. Yeah, thats not a very fun type of connection to make at JFK. As I just mentioned, 30 minutes is the bare minimum of time youll need for a domestic to domestic connection. If there was a second daily frequency I would risk it, but missing my flight home involves waiting for the next day's flight, or being funneled through DFW. The listed minimum connection time in AMS for a non-Schengen to Schengen, Delta to KLM flight is 60 minutes ( see info here ). Hi Scott See more about our ethics policies here. Most helpful comments ( as chosen by the OMAAT community ). And when would this occur during a connection? If you read your boarding passes, boarding on most carriers ends :10 minutes before the scheduled departure. Review: The Woodward Hotel Geneva, Oetker Collection. The difference is that when things go wrong in Dallas, there are a lot more flights you can be rebooked on to get to your final destination. The comments on this page have not been provided, reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any advertiser, and it is not an advertiser's responsibility to ensure posts and/or questions are answered. Wve all undoubtedly seen our favorite actors and movie stars make mad dashes through the JFK airport in a way that makes it look like hell on earth. Thats made me feel so much better and after checking the Terminal 8 map think Im going to be fine. Ill be arriving Terminal 4 at about 12:30 pm on a Wednesday departing Terminal 1 (with a 1 hour and 35 layover) at about 2:25 PM. Do you think we will have enough time to get off one flight and onto our connecting flight in 30 minutes with JetBlue? Ive read it for years, and I really should comment more as much as I travel. Your thoughts and is there any way to expedite the connection? If anything goes wrong, then AA could just send me through Dallas. This is so u reasonable especially if your a senior citizen. While I was one of the first off the plane and through Global Pass in minutes, my luggage took forever to get on the conveyor. Youll have to ask those in line in front of you. I'm usually in the first cabin or close to the front, so that helps for sure. And if legaly booked you can apply for the EU261 rule and get some nice money. I avoid booking an intinerary that does not have at least an hour connection scheduled. I had a carry on roller suitcase and a large personal bag. Also, dont get hung up on the fact that Terminals 3 and 6 are nonexistent. Connecting from a domestic flight to an international flight at JFK will require at least an hour. :), watching your plane sit at the gate going nowhere with the jetbridge disconnected is pure heartbreak. If I do miss a connection, every incursion, they see my status and assist in getting me where I need to go. Having TSA Precheck will make a 1 hour and 40 minute connection easy. I turn to the agent and say but you knew we were here because we checked in and boarded the first flight and it landed late but did arrive before this one was departing so why would you give away our seats. For example, you wont have to schlep across the entire airport to transfer from one Star Alliance or Oneworld airline to another. I'm a free agent for US3 flights anymore because, well, they all generally suck for one reason or another - product, miles, whatever - and AA insists on doing this to us. 2 Hours Before Departure. Youre definitely going to need extra time for this, but I would assume that if JFK is like any other airport in the US, the oversize luggage retrieval area is very near to the baggage claim carousel for your arriving flight. Unfortunately, if I take a packaged tour I can't always get what I want. Have to go running thru to catch connections it is crazy. We have checked luggage. Hi Im coming from Barcelona British Air and then Delta back to PR how long would it take. While looking at flights, I was surprised to stumble upon what must be among the shortest minimum connection time in the United States. Hey Christina yeah, 30 minutes sounds scary (itd even make me pucker up a little lol) but its super easy to get all the way from one end of Terminal 5 to the other in no time flat. The anxiety was almost crippling as we landed in Phoenix. Wow ! We are 3 adults from UK coming from Dallas then on to Heathrow. For the 2022 year, Im currently Diamond with Delta as well as Exec Plat with American. They know if any others are booked to your itinerary, and whether you have checked luggage that requires consideration. Years ago I was coming back from Argentina to Dallas. But it's also the most reasonable price by a not-insignificant amount. On more than one occasion the short layover resulted in a "free" On more than one occasion the short layover resulted in a "free" stopover. Not too big of a deal if there are other frequencies later on in the day, but if that isn't the case it can be a @Nelson lucky you Fortunately based in MUC with most of my travels being intra-EU to hubs (so usually little need for connecting), but the 2 times I have connected in FRA with less than 1h in between, I have always ended up having issues and missing the connecting flight. We land late and the cranky lady takes her sweet time taking the suitcases off the rack. Delta: 30-minute minimum connection time. And I'm talking as flying about an average of 400k miles a year, so yes, I have had some luck. - Hadn't thought about the "trip delay" angle, but I'd be surprised if AUS expanded to over 30 gates just before Covid, and the other day, I arrived on a flight from LAX at Gate 1. Just experienced this yesterday doing an AA international arrival and domestic departure at PHX. Good luck! The exception is Phoenix, which also has a 25-minute MCT, though thats a hub I generally avoid (just due to the geography, given that I live in Florida). Often, after booking, AA will change my outbound flights forcing a tight connection and I have to phone to change it back. Hi. Theres no need to add to the stress by having short connection time. Of course, the gate agents aren't in fault but I asked to speak to their superiors to which I told I had a wedding that evening in GRU. Due to change in flight times the connection is now 3:55. I realize it the next day when checking flight status using flight number and it came up as that route not starting until a month later. It has taken us a very long time on AA recently when you have your own device (we have a mobility scooter). Hi what about the baggage? You should have enough time to meet your friend IMHO. Experienced flyers look at a connection like that and say "nuh uh, not way". Most of the international airlines which serve JFK are split between Terminals 1 and 4, though there are also some operating out of Terminals 5, 7 . Scott, From Chicago to Europe they often sell flights via New York. When the flight is not cancelled or the length of delay is 90 minutes or less, a refund does not apply:. Accra, Ghana (ACC) 3-4 Hours Before Departure - Even if not Checking Bags. We recommend you arrive to the airport at least 3 hours before your scheduled departure for international flights. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. WILDCARD: if youre traveling alone and are worried about your connection, try to book a seat in the front half of the plane. If you do have luggage to check (and it wont be transferred to your next flight automatically), an hour and 34 minutes wont be enough time. Its not the motherf*****r that you think it is. Delta Air Lines operates a major international hub out of Terminals 2 and 4, while American Airlines has a hub in Terminal 8. It has taken us a very long time on AA recently when you have your own device (we have a mobility scooter). Do we have enough time? American Airlines is the absolute worst, run by brain dead fools. But I need to mention, never ever the flight departed on time. I was quite unsure as to what I should do. AA seems to do this quite a bit everywhere with RJ's which is kind of interesting since stepping off the jet time is replaced by waiting for your valet bag, unless you were smart enough to check it through and let it be ramp transferred from tail to tail. Clearly you don't fly American because American rarely will hold a flight. Airport. Itll simply be a matter of walking from one plane to the next (unless you have to change terminals, which in that case, will require going through a security checkpoint). Here's what the official rules are when booking: American: Reported to be 25 minutes. Inbound on international itineraries into DFW I book around an hour because there are flights every hour back to my home base if I misconnect there. Unless youre in 1st, always give yourself an hour between connections. Tight Connection - JFK. And behind me were another 25 Clearly you don't fly American because American rarely will hold a flight. You will NOT make a 25 minute connection. Thank you American for making me feel so miserable! These standards vary by airport, and can also vary depending on the flight.. Minimum Connecting Time (Approximate) JAL other international airlines: 120 minutes: JAL other domestic airlines; Other international airlines JAL: Luckily it's a 6-hour layover so you have plenty of time, but alsoit's a 6-HOUR LAYOVER AND YOU CHANGE AIRPORTS. At San Francisco's SFO, some airlines still schedule minimum connection times as short as 30 minutes. Years ago I was coming back from Argentina to Dallas. Worse case with practically running it could take you 20 minutes from the 2 farthest gates. As a New Mexico resident that flys out of ABQ or ELP on AA often, I was confident you would be talking about a ticket leaving from one of these airports. We have a connecting flight in terminal 7 to Buenos Aires at 3:25 pm with Aerolinas Argentinas. If you book it, be prepared to run. If I miss the connecting flight, I will have to wait 25 hours at DOH, and I cannot enter the country for a hotel because of the World Cup. be okay in most cases ? Thats assuming youre flying the same airline and dont need to make a terminal change. You can meet them at the arrivals area in T4. Since you're talking about connecting in AMS and JFK, I imagine you are looking at flying Delta/SkyTeam. I am arriving JFK Delta from Barcelona. We had almost the same problem with American Airlines coming from the Bahamas to Miami ! I would want a minimum of 2 hours for this if it were me. I have to admit, if I can connect in MUC then I never use FRA. Hi George yes, 2 hours to go though customs and immigration at JFK will be tight (especially if you have checked luggage), but the thing thatll make it easy is that you wont have to switch terminals. gives me attitude even though it's AA that screwed up and insists there's nothing available until evening. Ive always thought that the airlines can have short MCTs if they want but then they should warn you if you try to book a really short connection and offer you a longer connection option (if you want to be more sure your travel wont be disrupted). The issue is with mobility . Often, selecting better connection times (1+ hour) result in higher fares (again, at least in my experience), which is annoying. The shortest published time isn't necessarily going to pan out that way. to Int. AA'd likely give some BS non-answer about customer feedback and ensuring passengers get to their destination "quickly and safely" yet completely ignoring that if customers miss flights because of short MCTs, they're getting NOWHERE quickly and safely. We made it by a hair. For more information, please contact the Japan Airlines Reservations Center. You gotta be stupid if you are trying to connect in a large urban airport for under an hour domestically. However, it can take as long as 3 hours if you're coming off an international flight and you need to do a terminal change in order to make your connection. I have a KLM flight arriving at JFK from Amsterdam with a layover of only 1:45 before my connecting flight to Norfolk all on 1 ticket and no terminal change. I was especially upset because even though it was tagged priority, AA didnt seem to care and it came off towards the end. Though maybe it wouldnt help since the inexperienced travelers most likely to need that steer are probably booking via third party channels anyway. Each airport has its own list of minimum connection times. Not an easy task!! All 3 lines stop at all terminals, but the Airline Terminals Train is the fastest way around. If your trying to get a plane in dallas or LA it takes more than 25 min. International to domestic will require nearly all of that 1 hour and 25 minutes IMHO since youll have to do the customs/immigration thing. I think it would be a relatively stress free experience with a 3 hour layover. JFK transfers if you would: A domestic international connection (no terminal change), with checked baggage. Wow, not so familiar with US Airports but i.e. We will have carryon nothing checked. These types of connections work out great when you have trip delay insurance and you don't care when you reach your final destination. Hi! I was going from LGA to ORD with 30min connection in PHL. Absolutely absurd especially now when such a large percentage of flights are late. Based on my own experience, heres how long it usually takes me to move from one terminal to the next at JFK using the AirTrain (the Airline Terminals Train): Before I started flying on a somewhat regular basis, I always overestimated how much time I would need for a connection at JFK. Seriously the entire flight had already arrived at sat down before me so I knew I wasn't stealing a seat from someone who needed it more and again there were multiple empty handicap seats right next to it. Keep in mind this is for an "interline . Try the connection in Chicago. I'd rather not have to 2 stop a domestic trip. The John F Kennedy Airport is in a constant state of evolution, and a lot has changed over the years (including the elimination and combination of some terminal buildings). One has to clear security again with a terminal change regardless of domestic-domestic or domestic-international, correct ? Hi Barbara yes, you could probably take a taxi to get from one terminal to another, but it will be extremely inconvenient for them due to how short of a trip it is. Have a great trip! Would you book an itinerary like this? Ive personally never done it with luggage, but if I was planning on doing it, my minimum connection time would be 2 and a half hours. Well, don't know how that works in the US but back in time I was Flying BRU-LIS-GRU with a theoretical stop over in LIS of about 2hrs (which in practice was/is always much more). I booked a flight on one ticket with American Airlines from London to Toronto with a flight connection at JFK. Theyll just put you on the next one (automatically) and you wont have to wait long. But what I am more worried about is whether the transfer time of 2 hours is sufficient from an overseas visitor. Its their lack of actually getting you to your gate on time. Both flights are part of the same ticket. SANspotter.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn commissions by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. Dont know if we are going to make it. If We had almost the same problem with American Airlines coming from the Bahamas to Miami ! So if your connecting flight is scheduled to depart at 1:00, the airline will have that door open for you up until 1:58, as you have your ticket scanned, saunter down the runway and through the airplane door at 12:59, and while youre doing the passenger shuffle to take your seat, the forward cabin crew will be saying their thanks a bunch see ya soons to the ground crew as they shut and secure the planes door. For the 2022 year, Im currently Diamond with Delta as well as Exec Plat with American. Thanks in advance! American Airlines says the minimum connection time for a passenger traveling from Albuquerque to Miami through its Dallas-Fort Worth hub is 40 minutes, and that number would be the same. And because youll go through US customs and immigration prior to departing YYZ, youll arrive at JFK as if it were a domestic US flight. Home->LGA/JFK->European Home. Hi what is the required connection time in JFK for international to domestic flights? Then she gives us our new flight which goes to BOS first so completely wrong direction and then we won't arrive in ORD until 6 hours after our original landing time and I miss all the events I had that day. Despite how much I love the JFK Airport for being one of the most efficient international gateways in the world, it has its flaws. I debated and thought well delta around 70% of the time will get to Atlanta around 30 minutes early which would bring my connection time up to 60 minutes instead of 30 minutes. Afraid it will take a long time to de-plane, get luggage, go through customs, get to correct terminal, etc What do you think? If they are booked on the same ticket, then the airlines won't give you an illegal connecting time. Every airport and airline has different minimum connection time requirements. An international domestic connection (no terminal change), with checked baggage. American's ground staff get stuck dealing with the chaos. What is the ideal connection time at JFK? The incoming flight was delayed by 15 minute so technically there was only 20 minute transfer. It can be difficult to find this information on an airline's . Note that there are 3 separate AirTrain lines: the Airline Terminals Train, the Jamaica Station Train, and the Howard Beach Train. But yes. I don't even think that is allowed for Int. And try running through Charlotte with the crowds of people who take their sweet time. FYI, asking the TSA (or any airport employee) to move you to the front of the line wont work. I would only call the high A gates club closet-sized. I am flying Toronto JFK with Delta. The airline doesnt want to pay you a family full of vouchers and potential hotel stays if they can avoid it. We departed BRU with 2hrs delay due to a technical issue and once I arrived at LIS they where just starting the boarding for the LIS-GRU and I was allready out of their system to continue my flight. There's nothing to "believe" about Pre Check. Including being in London and American Airlines had no plane to fly us home in. Assuming your entire itinerary is part of the same ticket, you wont need to retrieve and re-check your luggage. 1B). So I booked the same itinerary again for this Thanksgiving, but I recently looked at it again and it only had a 45 minute connection time in DOH! Walking isnt always possible unless youre feeling especially courageous and willing to walk through dark parking lots and sketchy garages. 60 Minutes Before Departure. I recently waited for my valet checked bag at PHX with quite a few silly people that were trying to make a tight connection. I fly every other day some weeks and constantly lookup ticket prices. Its an interesting one. Had I been 30 second later it would have been too late. What do you make of Americans 25-minute minimum connection time? Only the domestic portion goes into LGA and the international portion in and out of JFK. Great info can I ask a question Im travelling from UK (via Amsterdam) to JFK then on to Cincinnati (CVG) I have good luck chatting through the app and I am not an elite. I'd rather not be sitting there with blood pressure rising waiting for doors to open on the inbound flight which often takes more than 15 minutes to deplane. From there, you will need to go to the Delta check in area to re-check your luggage. Were you flying international or domestically to a smaller service airport? 2. Because if you have to be re-accommodated unless you have top status or perhaps an AC membership the experience with AA will make you feel "punked.". Needles to say the pain was unbearable and had to take time off and deal with medical bills. The customs and immigration facilities at this airport are extremely large and state of the art, but that doesnt always mean that its fast and efficient. Our connecting flight is departing at 10:29pm on JetBlue. We're part-time European residents and our nearest (truly) international airport is ORD. Im coming in at Terminal 5 and departing international at Terminal 1. When I grabbed my suitcase from the carousel due to trying to hurry, I dropped it right bellow my knee and broke my leg!!! Can you reach out to them to comment on these absurdly low connection times? The airline may or may not provide a hotel. Thanks for your Antwerpen. Thank you. I avoid booking an intinerary that does not have at least an hour connection scheduled. I have also seen 30 min connections on DL in Atlanta. In that case, even a 45 minute connection would be fine connecting to a flight in the same terminal. And it was one of their tiny ass planes where any roller suitcase gets valet sticker at gate. I guess what I'm trying to say is you don't have to have just 25 minutes. Youre welcome Jenny! Unless the delay is hours and the cause of the delay is the airline, expect nothing. 25-minute layovers arent well suited for your checked luggage. Home->LGA/JFK->European Home. Im pretty sure PHX is also 25 minutes for AA, with potentially a much longer walk. If for whatever reason a terminal change is required, the minimum connection time increases to 1 hour. Your Neos flight will arrive in Terminal 1, and your JetBlue flight will depart out of Terminal 5. I think KE lands in T1 and DL is in T4. I would never book this, I think my average delay time on AA is >25 minutes, unless you assume your connecting flight's pushback is also subject to AA's MDT ("Minimum Delay Time") of 25 minutes. Usually aa arrives early into aus and most likely the sane plane goes to the connecting destination. Love this! Toronto (YYZ): 90 minutes The only question is, do they have a protocol in place to alert the connecting gate agent that you're coming right off another plane, so they don't just declare you've missed the flight and close the door. Hi Scott! On the one hand, a 25-minute MCT in Austin seems really aggressive. Learned yesterday that MCT is based upon time to transfer bags from one plane to another, has nothing to do with people getting off one plane and onto another!